Why Ahmed Nassef left Yahoo: A look at Telfez, his new social TV startup
Ahmed Nassef, one of the Middle East’s early internet pioneers, announced last month that he has left his role as Yahoo! VP and managing director for the Middle East and Africa, to launch Telfez, a new social television startup.
In a company statement, Yahoo said, “A true digital pioneer, Ahmed was part of the Maktoob team since 2001 and played an instrumental role in its growth over the years through to its acquisition by Yahoo! in 2009. We thank Ahmed for his contributions and wish him the best in his future endeavors.”
Nassef is launching Telfez along with Tamer Rashad, the former Managing Director and Head of Merrill Lynch Middle East and Africa, who also recently founded Humtap, a platform for sharing original music recording. Telfez will allow users to “to share, discuss, and discover TV content in a way that's simple, intuitive, and fun,” with a focus on emerging markets.
One of the
biggest challenges that a social TV startup will face is
gaining enough of a userbase to make the experience worthwhile, and
keeping those users from straying to other platforms. This might be
true of any startup, but when a platform’s value rests upon social
conversation, it’s even more critical to get the interface right
the first time, and iterate quickly to keep the crowd engaged.
With a simple platform that operates on web, tablet, and mobile, Nassef and Rashad hope to avoid the barrier to use that hardware products like smart TVs have, while moving quickly to grab market share by launching as a first mover in the Arab world and Africa, with offices in California and Dubai.
Here’s their take on what social TV offers an emerging market:
Why build a social TV platform for emerging markets?
Ahmed Nassef: The fact that are watching TV while watching on a second screen as well is s a global phenomenon, but in the Middle East, the opportunity is clear, thanks to three factors:
- 1) High TV consumption. Over the past few years, as mobile
consumption has increased, TV consumption hasn't declined; people
are simply spending incremental time on other devices.
- 2) High smartphone usage. Smartphone penetration exceeds what
we're seeing in many more mature markets; most Gulf countries are
in the triple digits. Other markets are catching up; while mobile
penetration in Egypt is around 70%, smartphone penetration 15-20%
and climbing quickly.
- 3) High social media use. On YouTube, Saudi Arabia is now #1 in the world in terms of engagement. On Facebook, countries like Turkey or Egypt figure in the top 10 or top 15. The quick growth of Twitter is evident, and even the amount of time people spend engaging on discussion forums demonstrates an opportunity.
Tamer Rashad: In a lot of locations, people are also jumping on the network straight from smart devices, without ever using a laptop or a PC, which adds to social interaction.
How are people consuming shows differently here?
Rashad: If you look at the statistics, people in the Middle East
watch more live TV than in the U.S., where more are watching
on-demand or Netflix. People also tend to watch TV in groups, while
in the U.S., it’s often an isolated experience.
Nassef: Also, during Ramadan, everyone is glued to the serials that they're watching; it’s a communal experience. In emerging markets, TV is not going anywhere anytime soon.
It's often easier to generate a good social conversation around major TV events, like Arab Idol. How do you expect to generate scale during ordinary shows?
Nassef: Well, there's always a big TV event happening in the Arab world. Whether it’s the latest Arab Idol, The Voice, Bassem Youssef, or the live events, there's always a conversation.
Rashad: One of the issues that we're aiming to solve is this: TV shows are coming up with their own apps. But with tens of different shows, do you want to keep registering on one app and then another, or do you want to go to one place that connects you with your friends?
Is there something particular about the regime change and conflict over the past couple of years in the Arab world that inspired Telfez?
Rashad: I think we've seen how significantly Facebook and Twitter have contributed to recent events in the past few years; people are already using social media to learn what's happening in the news. In Egypt, people rely on Twitter more than they rely on the government news. We want to extend that experience.
Will you offer advertising directly on the platform? And will ads on Telfez complement TV ads, or skim off of the TV advertising market, which, in the Arab world, dominates advertising?
Nassef: The number one thing that we're focusing on is the user
experience, so it’s really important that whatever advertising is
offered is relevant and interesting to the consumer.
Rashad: Digital ads won’t cannibalize TV advertising. Telfez will actually help TV stations in three ways:
- We can tell TV executives who is watching their shows, when and how, with a rich data set.
- We can help TV stations increase viewership, as people who are engaged socially encourage their friends to join.
- We can also serve premium content to additional viewers and bring them onboard.
One of the major points recently raised at Arabnet was that premium content is a dead concept. Or, as Abdelrahman Tarabzouni of Google put it: "Premium content is whatever you want to watch." How do you think about premium content at Telfez?
Nassef: Premium is changing as the audience is changing. If a user is interested in a particular piece of content, it might be premium for him or her, no matter how well or badly produced it is. I also don’t think that premium is tied to a particular platform; we're seeing a mass audience for things that are on YouTube, audio, or MBC.
Rashad: In the U.S., a lot of the premium experience is around additional content that you watch after you see the original program, such as “Behind the Scenes” programs; this is also part of our focus at Telfez.
Google Now is starting to offer social information linked to TV shows, but you’ll have to connect your device to the same network that your TV is linked to to get real-time updates. Will Telfez have that issue?
Nassef: Let’s put it this way: if you're watching a black and white TV from the 60s, our technology should work with you seamlessly.
How did working at Yahoo! inspire this departure?
Nassef: I joined Maktoob in 2001, just a few months after it was
founded, so my background has always been close to the
entrepreneurial environment in the Middle East.
Lately, I was getting that bug again to get back into my startup roots. And this region is such an exciting space. The Middle East, including Turkey, and Africa are not currently a big focus for a lot of international companies, but they will be, because that's where audience growth is; we'll see digital spend multiplying year on year. Tamer and I started discussing the idea for Telfez a few months ago, and, since it combines digital, mobile, and TV, it just made a lot of sense.
Rashad: After working in New York and on Wall Street for the past 25 years, and then in Dubai as the head of Merrill Lynch across Middle East and North Africa, I was thinking, let's build a successful business for ourselves, not for a large corporation.
When will it launch?
Rashad: For now, our focus is on the product. We'll only launch when we have something that is really compelling, when it meets the user's expectation.